Comments on: Wikimania, media, and accessibility http://clicknoise.net/wikimania-media-and-accessibility/ Musings about music, technology, mobility, and culture, by Jean Hebert. Mon, 19 Mar 2012 22:56:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jean http://clicknoise.net/wikimania-media-and-accessibility/comment-page-1/#comment-235 Jean Sat, 05 Aug 2006 18:32:38 +0000 http://clicknoise.net/wikimania-media-and-accessibility/#comment-235 I agree it was a misframing, Ben. I also think you're correct to point out the difference btw intellectual and economic freedom - because people do get them confused and use the phrases interchangeably. Just a comment on the use of the word "free" that I've observed here, and in other Stateside fora. Don't get me wrong - there's much to be applauded about American optimism. The world needs optimism. But it also needs perspective. I think that extrapolating "freedom to know" to things like "freedom from suffering" (which Lessig did directly, talking about how free information leads to free politics and free labour...alternately referred to as "read-write" culture) oversimplifies a very complex, and assuredly tumultuous political and social process we only might be embarking on. I agree it was a misframing, Ben. I also think you’re correct to point out the difference btw intellectual and economic freedom – because people do get them confused and use the phrases interchangeably.

Just a comment on the use of the word “free” that I’ve observed here, and in other Stateside fora. Don’t get me wrong – there’s much to be applauded about American optimism. The world needs optimism. But it also needs perspective. I think that extrapolating “freedom to know” to things like “freedom from suffering” (which Lessig did directly, talking about how free information leads to free politics and free labour…alternately referred to as “read-write” culture) oversimplifies a very complex, and assuredly tumultuous political and social process we only might be embarking on.

]]> By: Ben Yates http://clicknoise.net/wikimania-media-and-accessibility/comment-page-1/#comment-234 Ben Yates Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:21:36 +0000 http://clicknoise.net/wikimania-media-and-accessibility/#comment-234 Wasn't the woodstock comparison just in the introduction? I think it misframed Lessig's speech: the cyberlaw prof. was playing to what he thought was a typical bloggy cyber-y crowd -- remember, there's a miniature silicon valley style boom going on right now, and he probably speaks at a lot of tech conferences. Lessig himself emphasized the similarities between open-source culture and wikipedia culture (both of which are quite practical and unglamourous), and though he talked about freedom, it was <i>intellectual</i> freedom, not american-style economic freedom. Wasn’t the woodstock comparison just in the introduction? I think it misframed Lessig’s speech: the cyberlaw prof. was playing to what he thought was a typical bloggy cyber-y crowd — remember, there’s a miniature silicon valley style boom going on right now, and he probably speaks at a lot of tech conferences. Lessig himself emphasized the similarities between open-source culture and wikipedia culture (both of which are quite practical and unglamourous), and though he talked about freedom, it was intellectual freedom, not american-style economic freedom.

]]> By: Richard Smith http://clicknoise.net/wikimania-media-and-accessibility/comment-page-1/#comment-233 Richard Smith Sat, 05 Aug 2006 04:06:50 +0000 http://clicknoise.net/wikimania-media-and-accessibility/#comment-233 <a href="http://twofish.wordpress.com/i-am-batman-and-i-hate-the-fairy-princess/" rel="nofollow">This</a> kind of bat? This kind of bat?

]]> By: Jean http://clicknoise.net/wikimania-media-and-accessibility/comment-page-1/#comment-232 Jean Fri, 04 Aug 2006 22:03:48 +0000 http://clicknoise.net/wikimania-media-and-accessibility/#comment-232 But this is bat country! But this is bat country!

]]> By: Richard Smith http://clicknoise.net/wikimania-media-and-accessibility/comment-page-1/#comment-231 Richard Smith Fri, 04 Aug 2006 22:02:19 +0000 http://clicknoise.net/wikimania-media-and-accessibility/#comment-231 Go all Thompson on them? Remember the intolerance as well as the fervour for freedom that you will find in the middle layer of North America. Go all Thompson on them? Remember the intolerance as well as the fervour for freedom that you will find in the middle layer of North America.

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